Rt Hon Lord Lilley

    Lord Lilley: My Lords, surely it is the job of politicians to put forward the truth and dispute what they consider to be unreasonable or disinformation with facts, reason, logic and ridicule, not to have a secret institution—which should be closed down.

    Viscount Camrose: I do not accept the characterisation of the institution as secret…Well, its existence is being debated here. I have lost the thread of my answer but I will provide a more satisfactory answer to my noble friend.