Rt Hon Lord Lilley

    Lord Lilley:

    I congratulate my noble friend on being the only person in this debate who has raised the question of whether the net-zero target for agriculture is feasible. Does she agree that probably the most realistic assessment of realistic steps to achieve net zero is the report Absolute Zero by the Universities of Cambridge, Oxford, Bath, Nottingham and Strathclyde, and Imperial College, which said that even a massive expansion of forestry will have only a small effect? It therefore concludes that to achieve zero emissions from agriculture would require,

    “beef and lamb phased out by 2050 and replaced by greatly expanded demand for vegetarian food.”

    I hope she will make it clear to the House that if we accept these amendments we are mandating the end of lamb and cattle farming in this country.

    Baroness Bloomfield of Hinton Waldrist: We are not accepting these amendments. I take my noble friend’s point. We should always have absolute zero as our goal because it will enable us to move as far towards that goal as possible.